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    Stimulus - Fail

    Most critics here knew this would happen. BHO's stimulus package wouldn't stimulate the economy and wouldn't save or create jobs. Not enough tax cuts for small business. Not enough infrastructure spending. Not enough spending quick enough to make any impact.

    What we didn't expect was the utter dishonesty in which the admin would engage to defend this failure.

    Stimulus jobs overstated by thousands

    By BRETT J. BLACKLEDGE and MATT APUZZO, Associated Press Writers
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    WASHINGTON – An early progress report on President Barack Obama's economic recovery plan overstates by thousands the number of jobs created or saved through the stimulus program, a mistake that White House officials promise will be corrected in future reports.

    The government's first accounting of jobs tied to the $787 billion stimulus program claimed more than 30,000 positions paid for with recovery money. But that figure is overstated by least 5,000 jobs, according to an Associated Press review of a sample of stimulus contracts.

    The AP review found some counts were more than 10 times as high as the actual number of jobs; some jobs credited to the stimulus program were counted two and sometimes more than four times; and other jobs were credited to stimulus spending when none was produced.

    For example:
    • A company working with the Federal Communications Commission reported that stimulus money paid for 4,231 jobs, when about 1,000 were produced.
    • A Georgia community college reported creating 280 jobs with recovery money, but none was created from stimulus spending.
    • A Florida child care center said its stimulus money saved 129 jobs but used the money on raises for existing employees.

    There's no evidence the White House sought to inflate job numbers in the report. But administration officials seized on the 30,000 figure as evidence that the stimulus program was on its way toward fulfilling the president's promise of creating or saving 3.5 million jobs by the end of next year.
    The reporting problem could be magnified Friday when a much larger round of reports is expected to show hundreds of thousands of jobs repairing public housing, building schools, repaving highways and keeping teachers on local payrolls.

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    The data partially reviewed by the AP for errors included all the data presently available, representing all known federal contracts awarded to businesses under the stimulus program. The figures being released Friday include different categories of stimulus spending by state governments, housing authorities, nonprofit groups and other organizations.

    As of early Thursday, on its recovery.org Web site, the government was still citing 30,383 as the actual number of jobs linked so far to stimulus spending, despite the mistakes the White House has now acknowledged and said were being corrected.

    It's not clear just how far off the 30,000 claim was. The AP's review was not an exhaustive accounting of all 9,000 contracts, but homed in on the most obvious cases where there were indications of duplications or misinterpretations.

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    In fact, the AP review shows some businesses undercounted the number of jobs funded under the stimulus program by not reporting jobs saved.
    Here are some of the findings:
    • Colorado-based Teletech Government Solutions on a $28.3 million contract with the Federal Communications Commission for creation of a call center, reported creating 4,231 jobs, although 3,000 of those workers were paid for five weeks or less.
    "We all felt it was an appropriate way to represent the data at the time" and the reporting error has been corrected, said company president Mariano Tan.
    • The Toledo, Ohio-based Koring Group received two FCC contracts, again for call centers. It reported hiring 26 people for each contract, or a total of 52 jobs, but cited the same workers for both contracts. The jobs only lasted about two months.
    The FCC spotted the problem. The company's owner, Steve Holland, acknowledged the actual job count is closer to five and blamed the problem on confusion about the reporting.
    The AP's review identified nearly 600 contracts claiming stimulus money for more than 2,700 jobs that appear to have similar duplicated counts.
    • Barbara Moore, executive director of the Child Care Association of Brevard County in Cocoa, Fla., reported that the $98,669 she received in stimulus money saved 129 jobs at her center, though the cash was used to give her 129 employees a 3.9 percent cost-of-living raise. She said she needed to boost their salaries because some workers had left "because we had not been able to give them a raise in four years."
    • Officials at East Central Technical College in Douglas, Ga., said they now know they shouldn't have claimed 280 stimulus jobs linked to more than $200,000 to buy trucks and trailers for commercial driving instruction, and a modular classroom and bathroom for a health education program.
    "It was an error on someone's part," said Mike Light, spokesman for the Technical College System of Georgia. The 280 were not jobs, but the number of students who would benefit, he said.
    • The San Joaquin, Calif., Regional Rail Commission reported creating or saving 125 jobs as part of a stimulus project to lay railroad track. Because the project drew from two pools of money, the commission reported the jobs figure twice, bringing the total to 250 on the government report. Spokesman Thomas Reeves said the commission corrected the data Tuesday.
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    Fuzzy math at it again.
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    But everyone who still has a job had their job saved so that is a lot.
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    Porkulus... - payoffs to the well-connected.
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    Where can I find a link to the estimate of the number of jobs lost, due to these funds being forcibly seized by the government from the private sector, and spent on these groups instead?
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    What we didn't expect was the utter dishonesty in which the admin would engage to defend this failure.
    You didn't expect it? Are you becoming naive or just taken in by the charisma of the chosen one?
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Hutch Fan View Post
    Where can I find a link to the estimate of the number of jobs lost, due to these funds being forcibly seized by the government from the private sector, and spent on these groups instead?
    Approximately 40,000 jobs lost. Here!
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    Opening post -- typical (and expected) BS

    The 30,000 jobs figure Cheap continues to harp on includes federal contrators only.

    Early reports: Job gains signal stimulus impact
    By Brad Heath and Matt Kelley, USA TODAY

    WASHINGTON — States have reported using stimulus money to create or save more than 388,000 jobs so far this year, buttressing the Obama administration's claim that the $787 billion plan has had a significant impact on the economy.

    That total, based on a USA TODAY review of reports from 33 states and Puerto Rico, includes teachers, construction workers, and others whose jobs were funded by stimulus money awarded to states. The administration plans Friday to release reports from all 50 states, providing the broadest accounting yet of the stimulus plan's impact.

    ...Frank Lichtenberg of the Columbia Business School says the figures show a significant economic impact. Obama's Council of Economic Advisors estimated that the stimulus had saved or created 600,000 to 1.1 million jobs. Lichtenberg said the states' reports "make that sound like a reasonable estimate."
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    The 30000 figure was the only one actually available. The other numbers are being released Friday, but there is no reason to believe that those figures will be any more valid than the Fed overcounting. Moreover, the state jobs "saved" merely propped up bloated state employment rolls, putting off needed budget cuts for another year. Such spending was never intended to stimulate the economy. It was intended as a payoff to public sector unions and their reliable Dem contributions and organizing efforts.


    The bottom line is that the stimulus was sold as necessary to keep unemployment below 8% and unemployment is nearing 10% and the real unemployment rate is much higher because the admin is removing large numbers of people from the workforce because they have allegedly given up looking for work.

    The last point is one RH repeatedly harped on during the GWB admin. Now that the BHO is President (and the figures are much higher) he doesn't seem to care. I wonder why that would be.
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    A harder number to fudge is that now 49 states have less people employed than the day of Obama's Inauguration. North Dakota gained 1,200 due to their oil boom.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by CheapSeats View Post
    The other numbers are being released Friday, but there is no reason to believe that those figures will be any more valid than the Fed overcounting.
    If you bothered to read the link, you would know that the state numbers are to a much greater extent actual counts than the estimates from the COEA which were derived from more general economic indicators.

    Moreover, the state jobs "saved" merely propped up bloated state employment rolls...
    A job is a job is a job. Your ideologically-based opinion that state employment rolls are too large is irrelevant to the discussion of jobs saved by the stimulus and does not advance your argument.

    ...the stimulus was sold as necessary to keep unemployment below 8%...
    The stimulus was sold as necessary to keep the economy from falling into a depression. Not to guarantee that unemployment would go above 8%.

    Neither the President nor his economic advisors have a crystal ball that shows them exactly what will happen in the future, and I'm sure you would admit as much if pressed on the specific question. Nevertheless, your argument essentially presupposes that they have the ability to unerringly predict the future. And that unemployment is higher only because of some sinister, ulterior motive on the part of Obama.

    You've been reading too many comic books. Obama is not Lex Luthor.

    Furthermore, the unemployment rate is significantly influenced by factors outside the control of the federal government. For one thing, China is pursuing a currency policy that is keeping the value of the dollar artificially high. This policy keeps our export industries from expanding to the extent they would if the dollar fell to its natural level and keeps unemployment higher than it otherwise would be.

    ...the real unemployment rate is much higher because the admin is removing large numbers of people from the workforce because they have allegedly given up looking for work.
    The means by which workers are classified by the federal government was not changed by the Obama administration. The category of "too discouraged to look for work" has existed for a long time.

    Have you ever been involuntarily unemployed? I'm guessing not, because if you had, you wouldn't have developed such a callous attitude about the loss of dignity suffered by people who are turned away repeatedly by potential employers.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by redhat View Post
    The stimulus was sold as necessary to keep the economy from falling into a depression. Not to guarantee that unemployment would go above 8%.
    Obama: "immediately jumpstart job creation and long-term growth" Transcript

    Neither the President nor his economic advisors have a crystal ball that shows them exactly what will happen in the future
    Apparently I and many others do.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Luckyfan View Post
    Apparently I and many others do.
    Riiiight. Your skill at predicting the future is legendary around here. But not the way you think it is.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by CheapSeats View Post
    The bottom line is that the stimulus was sold as necessary to keep unemployment below 8% and unemployment is nearing 10% and the real unemployment rate is much higher because the admin is removing large numbers of people from the workforce because they have allegedly given up looking for work.

    The last point is one RH repeatedly harped on during the GWB admin. Now that the BHO is President (and the figures are much higher) he doesn't seem to care.
    I wonder why that would be.
    I don't. D.GOOCH
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by redhat View Post
    The stimulus was sold as necessary to keep the economy from falling into a depression. Not to guarantee that unemployment would go above 8%.
    Right. Which is of course why they gave us this:

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    LOL. D.GOOCH
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by GOOCH View Post
    Right. Which is of course why they gave us this:

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    LOL. D.GOOCH
    Bush lied!
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    hello redhat,

    Obama is not Lex Luthor.

    don't be fooled by the wig.

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    QuoteOriginally Posted by redhat View Post
    Riiiight. Your skill at predicting the future is legendary around here.
    Yes it is.. and he data is right here as is your lack of any information or data.
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    Maybe BHO is the ONE. He seems to have been able to pull the whole loaves and fishes thing with "saved" jobs.

    He managed to "save" 935 jobs with an entity that has only 508 employees.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by CheapSeats View Post
    Maybe BHO is the ONE. He seems to have been able to pull the whole loaves and fishes thing with "saved" jobs.

    He managed to "save" 935 jobs with an entity that has only 508 employees.
    So, for all the folks who did not get a raise this year we count them as a partial job lost? That whole "you lie" thing keeps looking more and more reasonable.
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    This is type of overcounting is to be expected in Chicago (although it usually occurs in the context of elections), but it also appears that Porkulus "saved" 473 teachers' jobs in a North Chicago School District. However, the District only employs 290 teachers.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by GOOCH View Post
    Which is of course why they gave us this:

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    Thanks for helping to make my point. Obviously, no one at the time thought unemployment would top 10% even without a stimulus bill.

    Once again, class. No.Crystal.Ball.
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    For the money Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have just crapped in the last 10 months, (so far), every single person that files a form to the IRS could have been given $ 15,000-20,000 in cash. OR, every worker and business could have have not worried about any share of FICA/Medicare withholdings approximately the same amount. THe second one would have actually saved and created millions of jobs.

    If you're gonna blow that much money, put it where it actually might help. Though even that wouldn't be the best means... but far better than the Marxist damage Obama and friends are doing.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Luckyfan View Post
    For the money Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have just crapped in the last 10 months, (so far), every single person that files a form to the IRS could have been given $ 15,000-20,000 in cash. OR, every worker and business could have have not worried about any share of FICA/Medicare withholdings approximately the same amount. THe second one would have actually saved and created millions of jobs.

    If you're gonna blow that much money, put it where it actually might help. Though even that wouldn't be the best means... but far better than the Marxist damage Obama and friends are doing.
    Amen to that.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Luckyfan View Post
    For the money Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have just crapped in the last 10 months, (so far), every single person that files a form to the IRS could have been given $ 15,000-20,000 in cash.
    That's not any better than giving "tax refunds" to those who don't pay taxes. Now if you said return it based on the proportion they paid in income taxes ok. Obviously it would have been better to not have borrowed the money to begin with but that ship has sailed.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Luckyfan View Post
    If you're gonna blow that much money, put it where it actually might help.
    A one time giveaway would only prop up consumer demand for a short while, and the money that went to people without jobs wouldn't be spent at all. People who are uncertain about their future finances tend to sock money away.

    The economics behind the stimulus? The government steps in to spend money to support overall demand when consumer demand cannot.

    And btw, every time you say "marxist" your credibility diminishes.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by redhat View Post
    And btw, every time you say "marxist" your credibility diminishes.
    It's true that the Porkulus Bill was not a Marxist redistribution of private property to the working class.

    It was an enormous act of cronyism, and in some cases outright corruption, paying off a favored few (many of whom had previously given to Obama & co) at the expense of all others.

    Now we're in cover-up mode.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by terryleebr View Post
    That's not any better than giving "tax refunds" to those who don't pay taxes. Now if you said return it based on the proportion they paid in income taxes ok. Obviously it would have been better to not have borrowed the money to begin with but that ship has sailed.
    Now it is not (that was one example)...but better than dumping money to Acorn and multitudes of other additional toilet based waste. Besides dropping FICA/Medicare from everyone for one year personal and employer (even better)... You could shit-can capital gains for a decade. Anything to actually provide stimuli. Crap for a single year may provide temporary stimulus (or steal from the future like clunkers or short term housing credts but the "real" job creators need something called "certainty", "Longer terms".

    The Porkulus didn't stimulate sh1t (and it really wasn't intended to, just payoff political friends)... , the Cash for Clunkers cost us $ 24,000 per car, the $ 8,000 housing credit cost us $ 43,000+ per house.

    And the crystal balls told all of us that was what was gonna happen.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by redhat View Post
    The government steps in to spend money to support overall demand when consumer demand cannot.
    Just wondering, exactly what article of the Constitution names that as one of the Federal Government's powers?
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    Obamath:

    Stimulus saves nine out of every five jobs!

    Remember those state jobs calculations RH insisted

    are to a much greater extent actual counts than the estimates from the COEA
    ?

    Ooops, guess not. The story in Wisconsin:

    Don't count on stimulus job tally

    Many employment reports from sources in Wisconsin are inflated

    By Ben Poston of the Journal Sentinel

    Posted: Nov. 5, 2009

    A stimulus job report that says more than 10,000 jobs were saved or created in Wisconsin is rife with errors, double counting and inflated numbers based more on satisfying federal formulas than creating real jobs, a Journal Sentinel review has found.

    In one case, five jobs were mistakenly listed as 50 - and then counted twice. In another, pay raises to workers were listed as saving more than 100 jobs. And in another, jobs were listed as saved even though the money had not been received and no work on the project had begun.

    The problems mirror those surfacing around the country, as the federal numbers claiming 640,000 jobs created or saved by stimulus money are being scrutinized.

    Among the Journal Sentinel's findings:

    Double-counted jobs: About $7.3 million of federal money will flow to the Parkland Sanitary District in Douglas County to replace its sewer system, a project listed as creating or saving 100 jobs even though work won't start until this spring, federal recovery data shows.

    But that number is inflated by 95 jobs, Parkland Sanitary District treasurer Eric Shaffer admitted.

    When reporting to the U.S. Department of Agriculture's online reporting system, Schaffer meant to type "5" but mistakenly added a zero - and that 50-job figure appears twice in the federal data because it was a combined grant and loan. He tried to correct the error, but was told it was too late for the federal reporting deadline.

    . . .

    Meanwhile, three other Wisconsin towns reported jobs on combined federal loans and grants that were counted twice, doubling their totals from 35 to 70 jobs, records show.

    . . .

    Pay raises: United Migrant Opportunity Services based in Milwaukee reported saving 113 jobs through spending $18,000 of a Head Start preschool grant, or about $160 per job. The award provided their employees a 1.8% cost-of-living wage increase. The nonprofit provides services to migrant farm workers in Wisconsin and other states.

    "We think the 113 jobs were preserved, but more importantly, the quality of teachers and Head Start child development staff was maintained," UMOS spokesman Rod Ritcherson said.

    In total, 157 jobs were reported saved as part of 17 Head Start grants in Wisconsin, all attributed to cost-of-living increases.

    . . .

    Murky numbers: Nearly half the jobs reported in Wisconsin - 4,670 - came from preserving teaching, administrative and custodial positions at schools, according to the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction.

    For instance, Milwaukee Public Schools said 996 jobs were saved by the $75.8&enspmillion it received in state stabilization money. Those saved jobs represent about 9% of the district's total staff.

    . . .

    The newspaper's analysis found other inconsistencies:

    •C3T Construction Co., a general contracting company in Milwaukee, listed 24 jobs retained for projects on which no work had begun and no stimulus money had been received, records show. The company got more than $7&enspmillion for five contracts, including replacing the roof and fire-alarm systems at the Milwaukee Veterans Affairs Medical Center.

    C3T Vice President Jim Hubbell said the number represented a projection of full-time jobs retained for the duration of the projects.

    •Owners at five Section 8 housing complexes in Madison and Milwaukee reported saving 38 jobs with more than $540,000 in additional rental assistance for low-income residents, though they acknowledged no new jobs were created.

    For instance, $117,000 in federal Housing and Urban Development money went to 3700 Green Tree Corp., a subsidized housing project on Milwaukee's northwest side, which reported saving 16 jobs.

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    This story will shock everyone who reads the bottom half of page 17.
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    Further update on those state numbers which RH assures us
    are to a much greater extent actual counts than the estimates from the COEA
    25% of California jobs "saved" are bogus:

    Many California jobs 'saved' by stimulus funds weren't in jeopardy


    PUBLISHED FRIDAY, NOV. 06, 2009

    Up to one-fourth of the 110,000 jobs reported as saved by federal stimulus money in California probably never were in danger, a Bee review has found.

    California State University officials reported late last week that they saved more jobs with stimulus money than the number of jobs saved in Texas – and in 44 other states.

    In a required state report to the federal government, the university system said the $268.5 million it received in stimulus funding through October allowed it to retain 26,156 employees.

    That total represents more than half of CSU's statewide work force. However, university officials confirmed Thursday that half their workers were not going to be laid off without the stimulus dollars.

    "This is not really a real number of people," CSU spokeswoman Clara Potes-Fellow said. "It's like a budget number."

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    More updates on those state numbers which RH assures us

    are to a much greater extent actual counts than the estimates from the COEA
    A riding lawnmower "saves" 50 jobs.

    South Carolina "saved jobs overstated by more than 100%.

    In Denver 3 Head Start jobs = 269 jobs "saved."
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by CheapSeats View Post
    More updates on those state numbers which RH assures us

    A riding lawnmower "saves" 50 jobs.

    South Carolina "saved jobs overstated by more than 100%.

    In Denver 3 Head Start jobs = 269 jobs "saved."
    And this is nowhere among dozens of links on the CNN.com front page.

    As long as the leftist editors in the "mainstream" media continue to bury the news, people will continue to turn to mediocre journalists like Fox because they're at least going to give you the information.
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    Hello Hutch,

    On the other hand, unemployment this bad can't be hidden for long. Or in some places - hidden at all.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Hutch Fan View Post
    And this is nowhere among dozens of links on the CNN.com front page.

    As long as the leftist editors in the "mainstream" media continue to bury the news, people will continue to turn to mediocre journalists like Fox because they're at least going to give you the information.
    I am sure there are lots of places where jobs saved/created have been understated too. Ok, not really. Where's Joe Wilson?
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    Add Mass. to the list of states where jobs "saved" or created have been grossly overstated.

    Oh RH, what happened to those more accurate state numbers based on actual counts?
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by Hutch Fan View Post
    And this is nowhere among dozens of links on the CNN.com front page.
    CNN has become about as relevant as the National Enquirer.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by 85cards View Post
    CNN has become about as relevant as the National Enquirer.
    The Enquirer scooped them on the John Edwards story. (And by "scooped them", I mean "didn't ignore".)
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    Ths stimulus not only didn't create jobs, it has cost jobs not only this year but for several years to come.
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    Michigan fudges the numbers as well:

    The Ingham County Health Department reported 97.49 jobs retained, but an official with the agency said without the funding, six jobs would have been lost. The Inter-Tribal Council of Michigan in Sault Ste. Marie, which provides services to member American Indian tribes, reported 99 jobs created or saved thanks to $46,000 in cost-of-living adjustments for Head Start employees. An official with the tribal council said she believes no jobs would have been lost without the government money.

    . . .

    General Motors Co., for instance, reported 105 jobs saved or created for a government purchase of 5,000 vehicles but later said no jobs were saved or created. The City of Detroit reported 342 jobs it now says were projections — not jobs already created or retained. …

    Detroit reported on a grant award — $10 million for work on 14 improvement projects in the city — saying 342 jobs had been saved or created, despite none of the money actually reaching the city yet. Last week, city officials told the Free Press those were only projections — not jobs saved or created.

    . . .

    Of 22,513 jobs reported, 13,555 were tied to state money for education, doled out to local school districts. Without a huge economic turnaround or more federal money after the 2-year stimulus ends, many of those jobs could be threatened.

    Another problem: More than 3,000 were summer-only jobs for youths. Those jobs do little to bring down Michigan’s highest-in-the-nation unemployment rate.
    I pulled this from a posting at Hot Air and it tracks all the states where the numbers don't stand up to scrutiny.

    Remember, these are the state numbers which RH assured us were more accurate because they were based on actual counts.
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    Porkulus saving or creating jobs in places that don't even exist:

    Sometimes It Feels Like Obama Governs a Whole Different Country

    Suddenly, Obama's claim to have visited 57 states...

    ... makes a bit more sense:

    In fact, Recovery.gov lists hundreds of millions spent and hundreds of jobs created in Congressional districts that don't exist.

    In Oklahoma, for example, the site lists more than $19 million in spending — and 15 jobs created — on Congressional districts that don't exist. In Iowa, it shows $10.6 million spent – and 39 jobs created — in non-existent districts.

    In Connecticut's 42nd District (which also does not exist), the website claims 25 jobs created with zero stimulus dollars.
    We should have caught on quicker when we saw listings for jobs created in Bloom County, Gotham City, San Andreas, Sunnydale, and Sodor.

    UPDATE: A reader reports, "I have heard the congressmen representing Lake Woebegone, MN and Margaritaville, FL are livid those communities did not get their fair share of stimulus funding."

    11/16 04:19 PMShare
    Thank goodness for those much more accurate state numbers based on actual counts.
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    Balloon Boy hoax: front page news for a week

    $787 billion stimulus hoax: the blogs, and maybe someday page 29b under the Mattress Sale! ad.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by The Iguana View Post
    Hello Hutch,

    On the other hand, unemployment this bad can't be hidden for long. Or in some places - hidden at all.
    It won't be.

    And, the dominant media may be (finally) doing themselves in.
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    RH: "the state numbers are to a much greater extent actual counts"

    Fail!

    New York's phony "saved or created" jobs report is just what we would expect. Purchase five vans - save or create 60, er 1.54, jobs.

    Some Say It’s . . . Recovery.Con

    Putnam County used in stimulus shell game
    by Michael Brendan Dougherty

    CARMEL, NY: Recovery.gov, the Obama administration’s attempt at creating transparency in the $787-billion dollar stimulus program, is a transparent failure in Putnam County.

    The Federal government claims that when Putnam County purchased five Paratransit vans with $319,000 of federal stimulus funds, 60 jobs were saved. A casual visitor to Recovery. gov might think that those 60 jobs were in Putnam County. But John Lynch, Putnam County’s Commissioner of Planning/Development and Public Transportation, said, “That number of 60 jobs is incorrect.”

    In fact, the number of jobs that should appear on the report is not 60, but just 1.54, and those one and a half jobs are actually in New Paris, Indiana. Whether by bureaucratic error, or deliberate maneuvering, the administration has inflated claims of job creation based on Putnam County stimulus spending. Other stimulus-funded projects in Putnam County are riddled with reporting errors and inaccuracies.

    Recovery.gov reports that Putnam County has received $1,092,595 of stimulus money for projects, $319,000 of which was dedicated to purchasing five new Paratransit vans, manufactured by Turtletop Busses in Indiana. Lynch told the Courier that the inaccurate number of 60 jobs created by the purchase of vans “counted both the second and third fiscal quarters, when it was only supposed to count the third quarter.” Putnam County officials tried to correct the number before the third quarter report was issued, but were “frozen out of the system” according to Lynch.

    The number 60 does not reflect the number of jobs saved only by Putnam county’s expenditure of $319,000; that expenditure would yield an average salary of $5,316 per year. Only when Putnam County’s order of five vehicles was combined with orders from municipalities around the country, which may or may not be using stimulus funds for their purchases, are the 60 jobs at the New Paris plant considered “saved.” It is unknown whether the 60 Turtle Top jobs have been counted several times in the overall report.

    According to Lynch, Turtle Top Busses claims that Putnam’s expenditures on busses in the third quarter added up to “a few days, and that comes to 1.54 jobs.”

    . . . “We went back to Recovery.gov to confirm the numbers, but received an e-mail from them at quarter to five on the last day of reporting, to confirm that it was 1.54, not 60 jobs.” Putnam’s response arrived too late and the already-inflated number of 60 was reported anyway. No correction was made, even after Putnam officials alerted Recovery.gov of the reporting problems.

    . . .

    Many of the other projects listed on Recovery. gov relate to local schools. Education related stimulus spending was first dispersed from the federal government to states, and then the states in turn awarded grants based on applications. In Putnam, the Carmel Central School district received over $2.2 million dollars. According to the government’s own reporting, this money has saved and created no jobs whatsoever. Superintendent Dr. James Ryan did not immediately respond to inquiries for this story. But according to other school officials, such numbers on the government’s transparent Web site are inaccurate.

    The Brewster Central school district received $1,828,466. “Basically a lot of it went to saving jobs that were slated to be eliminated last spring,” said Assistant Superintendent Timothy Conway. “Then a fair amount of it has gone to help children who are from low socio-economic backgrounds or those who need extra help in school. All of it is going in those areas of direct instruction.”

    “I think it is somewhere between ten and twelve [jobs that were saved],” said Conway, “I think they were almost all teachers and one administrative position.” Documentation for these claims was not immediately available, though the Courier has requested it. Asked how long these jobs were off the chopping block, Conway said, “My understanding is the stimulus money is a two year commitment” Asked whether any of the teachers knew that their jobs would have been cut absent the federal money, Conway responded, “No.”

    Putnam is not alone; many localities around the country are having difficulty tracking the avalanche of federal dollars, and the jobs “created or saved” by them. Local reporters around the country have found so many inaccuracies in the government’s own reporting that the Obama administration has slashed 60,000 jobs from its recent stimulus report, citing “unrealistic data” as the source of its misreporting.

    . . . This week, after a string of embarrassing stories about inflated job-numbers and a fictional Congressional district, the Obama administration has promised to spend $18 million to rebuild Recovery.gov to make it more accessible and accurate.
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    QuoteOriginally Posted by 85cards View Post
    CNN has become about as relevant as the National Enquirer.
    Clearly, a post ahead of it's time.
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    Well, then.....we should all be ready and primed for the Trump-promised job creation rocket ship (for anyone besides coal miners) that has(not) come about as the result of revamping the trade balance inequity with China and Mexico, for starters. Of course, beating ploughshares into swords to the tune of $56B HAS to help defense contractors, right? It certainly worked for Ronnie Reagan. We'll see if Trump is around long enough to be held accountable for his "strategy"......
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